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	<title>Comments on: Work on CSO Project Temporarily Halted</title>
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	<description>Let&#039;s talk Dearborn</description>
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		<title>By: This Shortie here</title>
		<link>http://www.deepsaidwhat.com/2010/03/09/work-on-cso-project-temporarily-halted/comment-page-1/#comment-8614</link>
		<dc:creator>This Shortie here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when did they first break ground on the first contract site, 1996? and here it is 2010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when did they first break ground on the first contract site, 1996? and here it is 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: oldalldayschoolmom</title>
		<link>http://www.deepsaidwhat.com/2010/03/09/work-on-cso-project-temporarily-halted/comment-page-1/#comment-8561</link>
		<dc:creator>oldalldayschoolmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there is allegedly/reportedly those millions that were squirreled away into offshore accounts...in places like the Cayman Islands, where international monetary laws really don&#039;t exist...so good luck getting any of that back into Dearborn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is allegedly/reportedly those millions that were squirreled away into offshore accounts&#8230;in places like the Cayman Islands, where international monetary laws really don&#8217;t exist&#8230;so good luck getting any of that back into Dearborn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wanting Better for Dearborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanting Better for Dearborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is Guido&#039;s fault can we get &#039;him&#039; to pay for it out of the millions in his war chest or has Kari spent it all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is Guido&#8217;s fault can we get &#8216;him&#8217; to pay for it out of the millions in his war chest or has Kari spent it all?</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it isn&#039;t urban legend. it was started and stopped using a non-traditional method and it failed. set the city back and cost us taxpayers hundreds of millions in the process. oh, yeah one head did roll years and years later. Kurt giberson decided to &quot;retire&quot;, an agreed upon way for him to leave the city and still get a pension. he was the one who pushed this crazy project (he knew nothing about engineering, by the way) and then guido backed it. it was crazy. go some searches in the local papers. it was bad money after more bad money. even better is that the council (many still on the council today) approved the crazy project, even the current mayor. 
one big MESS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it isn&#8217;t urban legend. it was started and stopped using a non-traditional method and it failed. set the city back and cost us taxpayers hundreds of millions in the process. oh, yeah one head did roll years and years later. Kurt giberson decided to &#8220;retire&#8221;, an agreed upon way for him to leave the city and still get a pension. he was the one who pushed this crazy project (he knew nothing about engineering, by the way) and then guido backed it. it was crazy. go some searches in the local papers. it was bad money after more bad money. even better is that the council (many still on the council today) approved the crazy project, even the current mayor.<br />
one big MESS!!</p>
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		<title>By: oldalldayschoolmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldalldayschoolmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else heard the oft-repeated urban legend (?) that the CSO project WAS started under the late mayor guido&#039;s watch several years ago, but was conducted using an experimental/non-traditional method brought over from Italy (no, not the Roman aqueducts),  resulting in disastrous  underground collapsing of infrastructure and pipes.  This failed and expensive initial attempt allegedly is why it is costing Dearborn taxpayers so much money and time for the do-over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else heard the oft-repeated urban legend (?) that the CSO project WAS started under the late mayor guido&#8217;s watch several years ago, but was conducted using an experimental/non-traditional method brought over from Italy (no, not the Roman aqueducts),  resulting in disastrous  underground collapsing of infrastructure and pipes.  This failed and expensive initial attempt allegedly is why it is costing Dearborn taxpayers so much money and time for the do-over.</p>
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		<title>By: MyTwoSenseToo</title>
		<link>http://www.deepsaidwhat.com/2010/03/09/work-on-cso-project-temporarily-halted/comment-page-1/#comment-8541</link>
		<dc:creator>MyTwoSenseToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoiled Dearborn Citizen!!!

I think the Citizens of Dearborn have been very patient and for the most part pretty forgiving (considering that everyone keeps getting re-elected).  

Here is a website that the taxpayers should visit:
www.epa.gov/med/grosseile_site/indicators/cso.html 

As of August 2009.....
Check out how many CSO Projects are &quot;Operational&quot; compared to Dearborn which are &quot;In Construction&quot;.  We are even behind Detroit!

Be sure to make note of the cost too.  
Subtotal - $335,705,000

Many of the other municipalities took advantage of getting the projects done right away thus taking advantage of lower costs and not having to burden the taxpayers.

The fact that the contractor is trying to squeeze two years worth of work into one is of no comfort to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoiled Dearborn Citizen!!!</p>
<p>I think the Citizens of Dearborn have been very patient and for the most part pretty forgiving (considering that everyone keeps getting re-elected).  </p>
<p>Here is a website that the taxpayers should visit:<br />
<a href="http://www.epa.gov/med/grosseile_site/indicators/cso.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/med/grosseile_site/indicators/cso.html</a> </p>
<p>As of August 2009&#8230;..<br />
Check out how many CSO Projects are &#8220;Operational&#8221; compared to Dearborn which are &#8220;In Construction&#8221;.  We are even behind Detroit!</p>
<p>Be sure to make note of the cost too.<br />
Subtotal &#8211; $335,705,000</p>
<p>Many of the other municipalities took advantage of getting the projects done right away thus taking advantage of lower costs and not having to burden the taxpayers.</p>
<p>The fact that the contractor is trying to squeeze two years worth of work into one is of no comfort to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iF THE BIG GUY HAD ANY BALLS, HE WOULD TELL THE FEW RESIDENTS COMPLAINING TO KEEP QUIET, ITS FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET THIS DONE ASAP PERIOD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iF THE BIG GUY HAD ANY BALLS, HE WOULD TELL THE FEW RESIDENTS COMPLAINING TO KEEP QUIET, ITS FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET THIS DONE ASAP PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.deepsaidwhat.com/2010/03/09/work-on-cso-project-temporarily-halted/comment-page-1/#comment-8534</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes another spoiled Dearborn citizen:  Fix my street, but don&#039;t inconvenience me.  The fact is that the contractor is trying to squeeze two years worth of work into one so the residents don&#039;t have to put up with the mess for two years.  The City doesn&#039;t do these things for fun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes another spoiled Dearborn citizen:  Fix my street, but don&#8217;t inconvenience me.  The fact is that the contractor is trying to squeeze two years worth of work into one so the residents don&#8217;t have to put up with the mess for two years.  The City doesn&#8217;t do these things for fun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a mess this is. I am starting to think it will never be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a mess this is. I am starting to think it will never be done.</p>
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