her pictures are nothing less than soft pornography. would never expose my children to her. she’s not a good representative of our community.

I have thought over the past few years that this “title” has lost all respect. This year’s new dealbreaker was, as Johnnyboy pointing out, the pics of these young ladies were soft porn like.

Also, Marge your right, what an example for what Ms USA is to be in a contest for stripping skills. Shameful..

You people that criticize are a joke. Let us step into your lives for just 5 minutes and imagine what we could dig up. Not necessarily pictures but ANYTHING. Just keep living in your glass houses. We should be proud of her and our city. If any one of you has a daughter in or past her teens I will bet anything that some pictures could come up that would portray her as bad… whether it be smoking, drinking, provocative clothing, what have you… what a joke.

As the saying goes, “If you like this kind of thing, this is the kind of thing you’re going to like.” You either approve of beauty contests or you don’t, and being a free country, just change the channel and move on if you don’t. Just don’t get all preachy, thanks.

IMHO – What a great story for all of us in Dearborn to share. It is exciting to see such a beautiful young lady bring this type of attention to our corner of the world. The fact that she is (apparently) a moderate Muslim is all the better – gives the jihadi wannebees something else to carp about in their quest for Sharia.

The Mojo in the Morning stuff is just a joke – who cares. If you want to bash her over that – go to Debbie Schlussel’s site, there’s plenty of hatin’ going on over there.

I think this is great for Dearborn!

Beauty is only skin deep. Contrary to olddayschoolmom’s post, the Miss USA contest is not just a beauty contest. In the ‘old days’ it was about character, beauty, intelligence, morals….those pesky things. And by all means, if they do on Oprah, then what the heck!!! People, look around, stop dumbing down everything that was ever done and lowering the standards. That is all this about. I am sure she is an somewhat intelligent girl however, her answer to the question posed by one of the ‘oh so intelligent’ so-called judges was not intelligent at all. In fact, it was wrong. Birth control pills are not a controlled substance. Oops!! Perhaps if we all raised the bar just a little bit, we would be better off. And as I always told my kids when they were growing up, we have enough peopel who think they are smart…we need more good people. The pictures of her were gross and at the age of 20, her ‘past’ is limited. Everything is relative. We should hold politicians, teachers, priests, nuns etc. to a higher standard. If they cannot control their behavior and have good judgement in their private life, how can we expect them to lead and/or represent the masses? Think about it. Mother’s need to raise their daughter’s to be ladies and their sons to be gentlemen. There is a time and place for everything….and by the way, some things NEVER should have a time and place…like pole dancing in a contest. Sorry, call me old fashioned. p.s. Marge, I agree with wholeheartedly.

AMEN KAY!!! The world has really lowered it’s standards. Nothing surprises me anymore and it’S a shame.

Oldalldayschoolmom:

Your comments don’t surprise me since you are always bashing police officers. Next time you need one ~ CALL A POLE DANCER!

Friends, please pay closer attention to the pictures of this young woman and the ‘pole dancing.’ Ms. Fikah was helping the radio station people warm up a crowd of women who had come to the meeting to LEARN some moves to entice their husbands at home. Ms. Fikah was not an instructor, but danced for the crowd of WOMEN to show them it was okay. Sure, a couple of pictures were taken, and because of the angle from which they were shot they aren’t the best.

So, to sum up, it was NOT a stripping contest. Ms. Fakih did not strip. Her shorts were certainly short and she showed a lot of leg. Other than that, the pictures posted by the radio station showed her in swim suits, which is the same as the Miss USA pageant.

Oh, and to quibble over the term ‘controlled substance?’ The pills are certainly not dispensed without a prescription, which is certainly controlling. The answer should have mentioned reproductive freedom, perhaps, but only one of the contestants had a solid answer, in my opinion. To stand in front of the cameras when you are one of the final five, with all that must be swirling through your head at that time, must be extremely stressful. To utter anything that resembles English can be considered an achievement.

So far, nothing has surfaced that suggests that Ms. Fikah is anything but a nice young woman. Extreme muslims might be offended by any show of skin, but they need to remember that Ms. Fakih is an American and, as such, is a free woman.

For all of you sexual hypocrits, I suggest you hide the Sunday papers when they have the ads for panties and bras. And how many of you have your daughters wear two bathing suits at the beach. Everyone that I have talked to who knows the young lady thinks she is a terriffic person.
Diogenes

I don’t even know where to begin in responding to all these comments.
Guess I can start with John Higgins and say that i disagree that nothing has surfaced to suggest that Ms. Fikah is anything but a nice young woman. Sorry, John, but the pictures suggest just that. They don’t make a final statement but they certainly suggest it.
I don’t want to hear about her being young or doing this pole dancing thing for women who are learning it for their husbands – what is that all about? It is vulgar – anybody remember what that means? Vulgar is not ladylike, it is not a role model characteristic. Vulagarity is not worthy of honor or praise. Vulgarity is distasteful and not mainstream regardless of how low our moral bar sinks.
And Tdogg, as far as the hate thing goes, I hate vulgarity – it muddies up my life and makes it very ugly. It has nothing to do with hating people. Actually, I have a deep sorrow for these beautiful young women who feel they need to resort to such garbage to accomplish goals. Shame on the people who pull them sown to that level. I’d say Donald Trumpp is at the top of that list.
As far as Ms. Fakih goes, I certainly wouldn’t be happy if she were my daughter, but I wish her the best. I hope she has a good level headed mentor.

Kay: let the media dig into your life for just 5 minutes and we’ll see what happens. not for a minute will I or should anyone believe that you make perfect decisions. She was at a promotional party with ALL women having a little fun. If that’s not your definition of fun so be it. I have a feeling she probably has a higher IQ than you, is more dedicated than you, will be more successful than you, and obviously dances much better than you. oh wait, you are PERFECT aren’t you?

You know, I’m not real fond of vulgarity, either, but after all these years, I’ve kind of learned to look away and “let it go.” Every generation goes to great lengths to shock its elders, and now that some of us are at that point, we are on the receiving end. Guess what – Rima’s kids will do the same to her someday. That’s life.

How bad is it really? – dancing around a pole (in olden times, it was the Maypole that caused similar consternation) isn’t much in comparison to kids not being able to read, and getting shot for making a face. Now that is vulgar.

I live in dearborn hills and have to occasonally sit at the light at dearborn high- i see high schoolers dressed like they’re going to bt’s for a shift more tan going to school— it starts in the home- and it starts early-

These pictures are the reality of life

Nose picking is a reality of life. Doing it before a camera for amusement is vulgar and not ladylike. It isn’t damning, but certainly not admirable, and it is understandable that some may think it not fitting behavior for a person who seeks the honor of being named Miss USA, a supposed role model for women.
Again, I hope these photos of Ms. Fakih are not indicative of who she really is and I wish her well.

What an interesting mash of opinions…Kay, I agree that expressing an opinion is not ‘forcing someone to agree with you’…please consider this strange juxtaposition of ideas: extremist Muslims say Rima doesn’t represent them, because a REAL Muslim woman would wear a burka, not a swimsuit, in public. They deny that their idea of womanhood is to deny the woman’s freedom. Now, Kay and others say that Rima Fakih is not being ‘ladylike’ when she showed off some sexy moves for a crowd of women – again, women. She was wearing a top that any young woman wears when shopping at the mall. Her shorts were very brief, sure, but there were supposed to be no pictures of her released. I wouldn’t like it if the one picture were of my daughter, but I would understand the situation and defend her. My feeling is that the people who would want Ms. Fakih to be more ‘ladylike’ would be shocked to realize their feelings are right in line with those who would remove ALL her rights as a human being.

Now, Kay, your definition of ‘ladylike’ is used by you to condemn the actions of this particular young lady. When I was a boy – yes, I am THAT old – women wore dresses or skirts for most occasions, even when cooking or cleaning the house, even working in the yard. Why? Because that was ‘ladylike.’ Women don’t do that anymore, do they? Even grandmothers wear pants most of the time. Now, I am not suggesting that pole-dancing in front of other women will become daily activity in the future. But one shouldn’t forget that definitions of acceptable behavior are always shifting. Rima Fakih didn’t shimmy for an audience of men. I think that makes a big difference. Her most provocative pictures apparently are the ones that the Miss USA pageant took of her.

Kay, you are a harsh critic. You parse the term ‘controlled substance’ in Ms. Fakih’s answer to the question she was posed, without cutting her any slack for the circumstance. Are you with the person who is angry that an Arab-Muslim was voted Miss USA, certain that she was only chosen based on politics? I hope not. I think that having a woman who chooses to be free, while still admitting to being a Muslim, is a great – repeat, GREAT – role model for young Muslim women, or young Christian women, for that matter. God gave us our individuality. It is up to us to be ourselves, and choose our own path.

Mr. Deep, thanks for this forum for these ideas to be exchanged in so civil a manner.

Kay (or whatever YOUR real name is), I am not a cop hater and have voted for every pro-police department proposal ever presented in this city. I just believe police, firefighters, and other public safety personnel should be residents of the city from which they draw their (in Dearborn’s case) substantial pay and benefits.

Kay, have you noticed that because Dearborn residents/taxpayers including me approved minimum staffing requirements for both police and firefighters, that Dearborn is not among the growing number of cities/municipalities that are threatening to lay off these employees in sweeping budget cuts?

Kay, have you noticed Michigan’s unemployment rate is an astronomical 14+ percent?

Kay, can you argue that based upon the high unemployment numbers, cities/municipalities cannot find suitable residents to fill the jobs in their public safety departments?

Kay, can you tell me–as you are an expert on Dearborn police–why it is the vast majority do not want to live in our city? If it is that bad to live here, I we residents/taxpayers deserve to know why police and firefighters choose to raise THEIR families elsewhere.

I look foward to your answers.

I’m sorry but do you people ever notice the girls and guys that walk around your neighborhood? Skimpy top and short, short shorts and the guys with pants around their hips or lower. Some of the girls under the age of twelve see these ‘beauty queens’ as role models. What a shame.

John Higgins: I am very happy to see a young woman of Arabic decent win this contest. I think it is wonderful. BUT, she carries a huge responsibility with this role and her poor decision has consequences. I am sure she is everything her family and her boyfriend’s mother says she is. The whole point of this is that, as Mytwosense said, these young girls look to her as a role model and because of THAT, she had a responsibilty to tow the line. Like I said, lowering the bar on everything has consequences. I believe that she is free to show herself as she wishes, don’t misunderstand. I think I have been pretty clear on my opinion. She is young woman, I don’t care what her ethnic background is. For that matter, I really don’t care what her education level is or how much money she has. I wish her only the best and would ask the she remember the young girls she may be influencing while in her new role. There is nothing she can do about the pictures at this point. The lesson for her is, while all these people who claim to be so “free spirited”, the “anything goes” crowd are the first to burn you the minute you try to make something of yourself.
I too, would like to thank Deep for this forum. I am constantly encouraged by the people of our fine city. Thanks to all.

1. Kay is my name but who cares.

Marge: EXACTLY!!!!!!!

@Mr. Blond

You couldn’t get no righter. All these softy, leftist “world is one” hippies have no idea the threat that Muzzlin beauty queens pose to our Western way of life. If we allow this to happen, next thing you know we’re going to have a dern Muzzlin in the White House. Oh wait, that’s right, WE DO!!!!!

And I can’t say enough how much I think it’s a complete and utter abomination that we would allow one of THEM, the enemy (remember we’re at war here), to usurp our (Christians) long-running reign as the undefeated, undisputed champions of beauty contests. This country is going to hell in a hand basket, and quick.

Furthermore, although it isn’t a surprise, shame on the mainstream media for twisting what is an obvious story — the enemy has infiltrated the ranks of our beauty pageants and is holding hostage the esteemed jurists of said pageants to ensure victory over the infidels (us) — into some feel-good crap about “first Muzzlin winner,” “from Dearborn, the proud home of Ford Motor Company,” etc. It’s plain to see its just another blatant example of our socialist, bleeding-heart media doing what they do best: Islamo-pandering.

So if your as fed up as me — and any God-fearing, decent soul must be — I have a modest proposal: Lets take our country back, starting with our pageants. I think probably the easiest, most foolproof way is imposing a religion test on the pageant hopefuls; Oh, you think burning bush is some sort of infidel STD? BUZZZZ. You’re out Fatima.

With not an ounce of seriousness,

J Cakes

Johnny Cakes:

Regardless of whether you were serious or not I find your post both irresponsible and insulting. You sound like nothing more than a race baiter. I will just say that maybe you should consider professional help.

Mr. Deep: I know for a fact that you have purposely kept certain comments from being posted on your blog. I personally know of at least one person whose comments have been kept off for less. I hope that this one just got by you.

MyTwoSenseToo,

Allow me to apologize for offending and also express my gratitude for what I’m sure was a well-meaning suggestion to seek professional help. However no matter the myriad things I probably do need professional help for, and I’m sure it’s many, this would probably have to rank pretty low on that totem pole. (Besides, what kind of professional help are we even talking about here?)

As for the irresponsible charge, I don’t know what to say. Irresponsible to whom? Irresponsible for what?

Here’s what’s interesting to me: You are reprimanding me for my “race-baiting” comments (actually I would say more religion-baiting if I were to characterize) — comments that are offensive ostensibly because they seek to marginalize or segregate a certain group, in this case the dern Muzzlins. And in America, God bless her, we strive for inclusion and understanding, not intolerance and separatism. Kudos to us.

And yet here you are marginalizing: “You sound like nothing more than a race baiter.” “Maybe you should consider professional help.”

And here you are segregating (implicitly): “I know for a fact that you have purposely kept certain comments from being posted on your blog. . .I hope that this one just got by you.”

Tsk, Tsk.

On the same token, though, I will say that your response is what I would hope most people would feel about something as repugnant as what I posted. The only problem is, and something you didn’t seem to get, was that that was the desired effect.

The abject absurdity of some things — in this case that a clandestine Islamic conspiracy hijacked the Miss U.S.A. pageant — are sometimes best viewed through a similarly absurd prism.

And I thought my post was pretty obviously absurd: *”softy, leftist “world is one” hippies,” (Absurdly pejorative, I’d say)**”dern Muzzlin” (Absurdly poor education) *”the enemy has infiltrated the ranks of our beauty pageants and is holding hostage the esteemed jurists of said pageants to ensure victory over the infidels (us).” (The enemy has infiltrated the ranks of our beauty pageants? Holding hostage the esteemed jurists? No explanation necessary).

But while I say these things are absurd and you call them “insulting,” there are people who actually believe them. The paranoid vitriol and rampant xenophobia on the comment section of Debbie Schlussel’s blog, for example, is enough to make one’s head spin.

By putting together those thoughts under the context of parody, the goal is to show that even though people have said and seriously believe this stuff, it is pretty laughable when you really think about it (See: Sarah Palin, Saturday Night Live).

And in the mutual spirit of offering unsolicited advice, here is my advice to you, MyTwoSenseToo: Relax. Lighten up. Take a chill pill or do whatever it is you do. I was being sarcastic; actually making fun of the very thing you think is insulting. There are far worse things by which you should feel aggrieved.

Also I would like to point out that Mr. Deep was conscientious on this matter. He originally blocked my post for the same reason you felt compelled to respond to it. But after sending an e-mail explaining my angle and a minor addition (I added the “With not an ounce of seriousness,” so that it was clear that I was, well, not being serious) he allowed it. I’m glad he isn’t as rigidly censorious as you apparently would see fit.

Your friendly neighborhood antagonist,

J Cakes

Mytwosense: very well said. Johnny Cakes: I think you might be the neighborhood antagonist. Your posts are way too much work to read. Perhaps you need to lighten up, take a chill pill or do whatever it is you do. Your sarcasm is boring.

I agree, it’s time to move one.

MyTwoSenseToo,

Ah, agree to disagree I suppose. I just don’t see what I posted as “wrong.”

Kay,

Nothing I wrote was directed at you. For future reference don’t read anything that doesn’t start with “Kay,.” It should save you countless minutes of boring reading that is too hard for you. And that’s not even to mention the time you’ll save by not responding to my boring posts. Have a good one.